The
Leo J. Ryan Conference
Bob
Minton's Speech
February 12, 1999
Although
Scientology tried hard to disuade CULTinfo
from allowing Bob to speak, they were not
successful. Bob Minton gave an address on
the first evening of the conference which
was very warmly received.
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Transcript:
Good
evening. I would like to extend a very special thanks
to CULTinfo for your commitment to continuing the
fight against the evils of cults, and for having
the courage to sponsor this conference. I extend
my best wishes for the success of your organization.
I would also like to thank you personally for having
me as a speaker at dinner tonight. Given the recent
controversies I have been involved in, I'm sure
this also took courage.
I
am a director of FACTNet. We too are a counter-cult
group and we are part of an ongoing strategy on
the Internet to disseminate information about cults.
Most recently, our emphasis has been on defeating
a dark and evil enemy - the so called "Church"
of Scientology.
Scientology
dislikes the Internet; it dislikes FACTNet; it dislikes
me and it dislikes this conference. One of the major
problems of Scientology is that its special brand
of evil dislikes any attempt by anyone to expose
the true criminal nature of this pernicious cult.
I can assure you, however, that I am here tonight
continuing to do just that.
More
often than not when we detail the dark activities
of Scientology, we concentrate on the more obviously
outrageous legal and constitutional rights violations
committed by Scientology's Office of Special Affairs,
or OSA. Truly these acts by Scientology's self-styled
police force are evil, their hypocrisy the most
notable, and it is easiest to express outrage against
this level of Scientology's crimes. It is OSA that
targets critics like me and organizations like CULTinfo.
There
is more than enough information on OSA's outrageous
activities available on the internet and I will
not burden you with a further litany of their abuse.
However, before I get into the main text of my speech,
I do wish to share with you some insights into Scientology
that came about last summer as a result of fifteen
hours of meetings with top Scientology officials.
I
had a series of meetings with two of the top leaders
of Scientology, Mike Rinder, the head of OSA, and
Marty Rathbun, the head of RTC and second in command
of Scientology, under David Miscavige. I agreed
to these meetings because at the time I naively
thought it might be possible to carry on a dialogue
with these people for the purpose of bringing about
reforms of some of their most abusive practices.
Without
boring you with the details of these meetings, I
concluded by the third and last one that communicating
on any rational level with these or any other Scientology
leaders was impossible. The arrogance and disdain
with which they treated me during these meetings
was born of a firmly held belief that anyone critical
of Scientology is nothing but a hindrance to their
forward progress, something to be neutralized in
any possible way. I was an irritant, and theirs
was an unshakable belief in the infallibility of
the technology created by the failed artist, L.
Ron Hubbard.
Since
these meetings, Scientology has stepped up its attacks
on me. But I am not the kind of person who has tended
to avoid confrontation. Although the Scientologists
have done everything in their power to complicate
my life, I have no intention of turning my back
on their insidious evil. Scientology knows this,
and they intend to stop me using whatever means
they possibly can.
But
what has happened to me is only one example of the
many tactics Scientology uses to silence its critics
and, generally, to keep the outside world at bay.
Indeed,
the external-facing Office of Special Affairs is
the only part of Scientology that anyone on the
outside ever encounters. It is extremely important
to realize that none of us outside the tightly controlled
world of Scientology are ever allowed even a glimpse
of the true face of Scientology. OSA personnel are
assigned to attend conferences like this one to
monitor the activities, report back to their seniors
with a list of attendees, and, if possible, harass
and introvert Scientology critics, many of whom
are here tonight. The people who carry out the harassment
and intimidation of critics are all OSA personnel
or OSA's hired investigators and agents. People
on the Internet never speak to anyone who has not
been specifically assigned by OSA to "handle"
the critics.
OSA,
therefore, is the interfacing entity between the
Scientology world and the real world. There is rarely
even the slightest ripple in the mirror-still waters
of Scientology's slick public image. To listen to
any of the OSA operatives here tonight, one would
think that they lived in a constant state of happiness
and complete fulfillment.
However,
there is only one way that we can catch a glimpse
of what life in Scientology is really like, particularly
in the totally closed world of the Sea Org and OSA.
Our avenue to this information is via the people
who have been there.
It
is painful, emotionally difficult work to come to
an understanding of Scientology. However, it must
be done to become an effective critic and to educate
others to the danger of this organization.
I
have read many of the testimonials by former Scientologists
on the Internet where these heartbreaking stories
have been posted. I decided to seek some of these
people out and find out for myself what had happened
to them. This learning effort has required a large
dose of introspection on my part and a willingness
to empathize and appreciate the emotional devastation
that has occurred to people at the hands of Scientology.
I
have gained incredibly valuable insights from my
long discussions with both current and former high-level
Scientologists about what it is like to be in this
cult. Many of these people have become good friends,
and I have been able to see that far from being
in any way discredited by their experience in Scientology,
they have an insight into the dark side of human
nature that it would benefit all of us to comprehend.
We
need to embrace them as equals and hear, but, most
importantly, understand what they have been through.
They have literally looked into the eyes of the
Devil. They have seen the face of pure evil. They
have a powerful and frightening story to tell, and
we must listen to them and understand the true nature
of Scientology through their hearts and minds.
One
former member has told me of being imprisoned behind
barbed wire and guarded by police dogs twenty-four
hours a day. He tried to leave but was physically
restrained and deprived of sleep and nourishment
until he became compliant. Gradually, as he was
subjected to ever increasing levels of indoctrination,
he felt that his soul lost everything of meaning.
Much later, he came to realize that he was being
used by something narcissistic and utterly evil;
his soul had been literally cracked.
He
came to feel that he had lost everything for the
sake of Scientology, and that a life outside of
the cult was not possible . However, because reincarnation
is part of the Scientology cosmology, the only hope
for escape from Scientology was death. He had conversations
with others in the Rehabilitation Project Force,
or RPF, Scientology's political prison. They agreed
that when they died, and after they were reincarnated,
they would wait a long time and have a chance to
see what a real life was like for a while before
reporting back to work in Scientology. They were
condemned to return life after life, but they would
put it off as long as they could. This was the level
of psychological despair which these prisoners had
reached.
Another
former Sea Org member told me the horrifying story
of being assigned to the RPF during one of Scientology's
many purges. She was pregnant when she was sent
to the prison camp. She, along with all the others,
was forced to do extremely strenuous physical labor
for thirty hours at a time, with only three hours
off until the next shift. People became so exhausted
that they would fall asleep while working and injure
themselves with their hammer, saw or other tools.
Often
they were forced to sleep on the roof of the building,
in pouring rain. They were utterly degraded as human
beings, allowed only minimal nourishment, very little
sleep, and many became extremely ill and feverish
because of the concerted pattern of abuse while
their immune systems were already so compromised.
They were being punished, she felt, because of the
paranoia of the leadership.
My
friend told me she was terrified that she was harming
her baby and begged her captors to be allowed to
sleep and eat for the sake of her unborn child.
But no one was willing to risk noncompliance with
the orders of senior management. She finally escaped,
but her baby was already damaged. Doctors thought
the mother had been on drugs during her pregnancy
because of the kind of damage the fetus had suffered.
They thought he was a crack baby, because when he
was born he was severely underweight, under three
pounds at full term.
She
couldn't tell them the truth, she couldn't tell
them what she had actually subjected her baby to.
So she let the doctors believe it was drugs.
It
took many years of therapy for the child but, miraculously,
this woman and her child have normal lives today.
Another
woman has told me of the constant terror in which
high-level Sea Org members live, the unbelievable
paranoia of senior management, in which any criticism
at all is taken as evidence that the staff member
is working for an enemy of Scientology. She was
assigned to the RPF after she voiced strong disagreements
with the way senior management was treating staff
members by not allowing them to sleep, subjecting
them to devastating interrogations, and pushing
them to the breaking point for imaginary disobedience.
She
described several times in which this treatment
brought her to the brink of losing her mind, times
during which she could not remember who she was,
where she was, or anything about her identity. Without
question, they were trying to break her to keep
her from being a threat to Scientology.
Tragically,
we will never have a chance to hear Lisa McPherson's
story of imprisonment and abuse, or why it happened.
Scientology succeeded in literally destroying her
life.
Several
women have told of the heart-breaking series of
abortions they were forced to undergo on orders
of senior management. Because L. Ron Hubbard's view
of children was that they are nothing but a distraction
from production, these women were considered to
be disobedient to have become pregnant and were
not only ordered to have abortions but were given
no financial assistance at all.
Thus
one woman told of having to spend the day waiting
in line to obtain Medicare, having to lie about
her circumstances so that Scientology would not
be linked to her abortion or her poverty in any
way. Some of these women have had multiple abortions
and finally escaped when they became pregnant again
and could not bear to abort another child. The scars
of such experiences can never be erased.
Others
have told of senior management's obsession with
illegal weapons, stockpiling AK-47s and Uzis, and
of afternoons spent conducting shoot-a-thons, using
photographs of critics and blown staff members as
targets.
Moreover,
Scientology has virtually unlimited funds - they
boast of spending a million dollars a week - to
pay high-priced attorneys and private investigators
to intimidate and harass critics and former members.
Their cynicism and relentless vindictiveness knows
no boundaries, and they will stop at nothing to
destroy anyone who tries to stand in their way.
Given
all of this, it is difficult enough for someone
coming out of the devastating experience of Scientology.
From what these people have described to me -- and
mind you, these are the lucky ones, the ones who
found the strength within themselves to escape --
they come out of this nightmare terribly disoriented,
psychologically and emotionally numb, and with no
clear understanding of what has happened to them.
This gives rise to a succinct definition of a Scientologist:
an individual who has been subjected to the behavioral
modification procedures of Scientology, but who
doesn't have the slightest idea what has actually
been done to them.
For
some of Scientology's victims, the stigma of being
a Scientologist is so ingrained by the cult's indoctrination
that it can never be erased. For others, only competent
exit counseling, intense therapy and time can repair
the damage associated with having been a Scientologist.
A key purpose of the counseling and therapy is a
greater understanding of the Scientology experience,
one which is not simple for anyone I have ever known
who has been in Scientology to verbalize.
So
what are some of the characteristics of the Scientology
experience on a conceptual level? These are some
of the characteristics that have helped me to understand
the basic sociopathology involved in this cult:
If
you don't want people to recognize that you're a
predator intent on possessing everything they have
as your own, put on a kindly voice, make them laugh
at things that have given them trouble, flatter
them, and offer them help in removing whatever is
blocking them from living a life of greater abundance.
If
you don't want people to recognize their true vulnerability
to outside influences (like you), tell them that
in reality they are completely separable from any
aspects of themselves that they consider vulnerable.
Tell them that their essential nature is both non-material
and "static" - which implies that they
can't really be affected by anything. Weave tales
that speak of their immortality. When they finally
accept the idea that underneath appearances, nothing
can affect them, they won't be able to recognize
the fact that you are affecting the essential core
of their awareness in ways they never even suspected.
If
you want people to be unable to recognize the fact
that you're taking control of their behavior, tell
them that the only way they can be controlled is
via factors in their midst that you want to help
them be rid of. Go to great lengths to demonstrate
that you are trying as best you can to free them
from things that might control them against their
will or against their best interests. If the act
is convincing, it will be a long while before they
finally suspect what you're actually doing.
If
you don't want people to realize they are becoming
the effect of your will, tell them that your goal
is to place them back into their rightful position
as cause over their own environment. Tell them that
your only interest is in seeing to it that they
reach a state of greater freedom and power.
If
you don't want people to recognize how little they
know about the structures and functions that grant
them awareness, make a list of all the common assumptions
about the mind, put them all together into one big
package, embellish it with something called "new
discoveries" and teach the subject like a university
professor would teach physics.
If
you don't want people to recognize you as someone
they can't trust, preach the value of your definition
of ethical behavior to them. Punish those around
you for what you have defined as unethical behavior.
For
an artful predator like L. Ron Hubbard, the rule
of thumb is this: if you don't want your prey to
recognize what you are doing to them, do and say
things that they would never expect to see or hear
from a predator.
In
the inverted reality of Scientology, the soul of
evil is bright and shining. The soul of evil is
filled with happiness and hope and love. But deep
inside, hidden away at the end of a maze of illusions,
is the stuff of nightmares.
Let
me show you what a Scientology-controlled society
would look like.
In
November 1996, a German task force was established
by the Conference of German Ministers (IMK) to do
a comprehensive investigation of Scientology. In
their final report in 1998, Dr. Gunther Beckstein
stated on behalf of the task force that:
This
report has shattered Scientology's propaganda facade
of a harmless religious community.
Scientology
is striving for a different society, in which even
non-scientologists will be "managed" by
the Scientology "leaders of tomorrow"
with what they consider to be superior methods.
Scientology
wants to establish its own legal system that is
binding upon everyone, with Scientology standards,
but without any guarantee of the course of law,
without the due process of law, without lawful and
independent judges and without lawful administration.
Scientology
disregards human rights (Article 1 of the Constitution)
and the principle of equality (Article 3 of the
Constitution), since only "cleared", "non-aberrant"
scientologists are entitled to enjoy rights.
In
a 1995 article published by the Federal Republic
of Germany under the title "A Giant Octopus
Which is Frightened of Nothing" ["Ein
Riesenkrake, der vor nichts zur?ckschreckt"]
in Die Weltwoche, Norbert Blum wrote:
"It
is a matter of power. It is a matter of money. If
we look at the world around us, then it rapidly
becomes clear to us that we are dealing with a new
form of sect that walks over bodies. I am thinking
of the mass murders of the Solar Temple in Switzerland,
the Aum sect in Japan, or the Davidians and militants
in the United States. They fight their own battle
and conduct entirely personal wars. We must prepare
for this type of war, because war is not just when
people are wounded or killed. .... Those who subjugate
people in their innermost selves are conducting
warfare. What I mean is the worldwide campaign of
Scientology. There can be no pardon for that."
Many
in this country consider it an exaggeration to compare
Scientology to Nazi Germany; yet, clearly Germany
today sees Scientology as utterly fascist. Germany
is doing everything they can to stop Scientology
and other totalist groups, because they recognize
in them characteristics of another Nazi party.
In
Greece last week, the press reported that Scientology
has obtained military intelligence secrets from
the Greek government following Greece's expulsion
of Scientology.
Following
a statement by Scientology's President, Heber Jentzsch's
in Denmark last week that Scientology would be fully
accepted within Europe during the next five to ten
years, Spanish officials, the very next day, in
their ongoing prosecution against Scientology, have
requested thirty years of jail time for Mr. Jentzsch.
Perhaps one day plus thirty years Mr. Jentzsch will
also be accepted in Europe.
In
1996, the leader of Scientology in France was convicted
of involuntary homicide when he was found to be
responsible for having driven a Scientologist to
suicide. Twelve other Scientologists were given
lesser sentences relating to financial wrongdoing
uncovered during the homicide investigation.
In
1997, a Milan court sentenced twenty-nine members
of Scientology to between nine and twenty months
of jail time for criminal association after they
were found to have been defrauding members, committing
extortion, cheating mentally incapacitated members,
and evading as much as $50 million in taxes.
Three
years ago, the Supreme Court of Canada affirmed
the largest single libel award in Canadian history
-- $1.6 million - for attempting to smear Crown
Prosecutor Casey Hill. Scientology decided to ruin
Mr. Hill's reputation after Scientology was raided
in a 1983 criminal investigation.
In
1991 Scientology in Toronto was criminally convicted
for breach of the public trust after they stole
police documents and spied on police and government
agencies.
Twenty
years ago the FBI viewed Scientology as a menace
to society when it staged the largest raid in U.S.
history on the Guardian's Office, OSA's predecessor.
Today, however, Scientology has miraculously transformed
itself into a "religion" and assaults
Washington with an army of celebrity puppets who
rub shoulders with the leaders of our country and
wax lyrical about the "benefits" of L.
Ron Hubbard's technology.
Our
own media is asking serious questions about Scientology.
The
Wall Street Journal, on February 24, 1998, questioned
the methods used by Scientology to gain tax exempt
status. The Journal suggested an "auditing
session" for Scientology starting off with
a question as to how the vast sums of money spent
by Scientology to harass critics and litigate meets
the IRS requirement that a 501 c-3 corporation spend
its funds on charitable purposes.
We
also have The New York Times stating on March 16,
1997, that "The great American religious saga
of the 1990's may be the rise to power of a church
that has successfully brought the Internal Revenue
Service, the State Department and much of the American
press to heel even as it did an end-run around the
courts."
On
September 16, 1998, we have the Boston Globe, telling
us in an editorial that Scientology is "one
of the great anti-intellectual movements of our
time." This is the Boston Globe saying that
Scientologists are unable to use their minds creatively
because they have been indoctrinated into a rigid
script written by L. Ron Hubbard.
Further,
the United States has been warned by governments
and judges all over the world during the last thirty
years about the evils of Scientology, and yet we
have other countries shaking their heads at the
apparent naivete of our government. Clearly a massive
education effort is needed to enlighten our government
about this cult.
The
Internet can be extremely valuable in this education
effort. Yet I am concerned that supposedly informed
Internet critics are missing the boat. One critic
recently wrote that Scientology is just a "silly
little cult that sometimes can be harmful but by
and large doesn't really do much damage to anybody."
Others think it quite acceptable not to blame someone
for being unable to understand Scientology.
I
strongly disagree with both of these sentiments.
It is my firm conviction that we CAN blame people
for not getting it, and in fact, we MUST. History
has taught us many painful lessons about apathy,
arrogance and ignorance. I consider attitudes reflected
by these Internet statements to be the result of
sheer laziness on the part of Netizens. They are
not willing to invest the time to understand the
fabric or construction of the Scientology experience.
And if you don't understand it, you cannot maximize
your effectiveness as a critic of Scientology.
One
Scientology critic on the Internet, Kristi Wachter
of San Francisco, recently wrote a letter to the
editor of the San Jose Mercury News in response
to a Scientologist's claim that "interest in
Scientology has never been higher." Ms. Wachter
certainly got it right when she stated that yes,
indeed, interest in Scientology has never been higher:
"Investigative reporters, government agencies
and concerned individuals are increasingly interested
in the evidence of Scientology's criminal and deceptive
acts. And Scientology may have become the most-picketed
church in the world, averaging a picket every day...."
This
is the type of vigilance that is necessary to keep
Scientology from running roughshod in the United
States over our civil rights, the legal system,
and the civil and human rights of its captives.
All
of us here tonight know that our best source of
truth on the nature of Scientology is former cult
members. Yet, ironically, it has been my experience
on the Internet that there is a prejudice against
former cult members generally that interferes with
hearing what they have to say. Intenet critics must
overcome this prejudice if they are ever to comprehend
the evil that is germinating through the looking-glass
of this nightmare world, happening right here in
the United States. The global nature of the Internet
clearly enhances our ability to change these attitudes,
which seem to be primarily concentrated in the United
States.
In
this way, we can hope that enough momentum will
build, so that the United States will eventually
take a stand against this evil cult. Scientology
is both a menace to our society and to our way of
life.
In
closing I would like to quote from a review of the
book Dianetics. It was written by Milton Sapirstein
and published in "The Nation" in 1950.
I first noticed this quote in the Washington Post
on December 6, 1998, when Richard Leiby wrote about
Lisa McPherson's life and death in Scientology.
I was very taken by Sapirstein's grasp of this evil
forty-eight years ago:
"The
real, and, to me, inexcusable danger in dianetics
lies in its conception of the amoral, detached,
100 per cent efficient mechanical man - superbly
free-floating, unemotional, and unrelated to anything.
This is the authoritarian dream, a population of
zombies, free to be manipulated by the great brains
of the founder, the leader of the inner manipulative
clique."
The
entire counter-cult community exists to ensure that
this message continues to be heard. I personally
am proud to be a part of this movement and to count
you as my friends.
Thank
you for your attention to my remarks tonight!
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