A
Report on the Lisa McPherson Trust
Bob
Minton's Speech at the Leo J Ryan Educational Foundation
Conference (CultINFO), 3/18/2000
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In
1975, an organization calling itself United Churches of Florida
moved into Clearwater. Its representatives paid cash for the
Fort Harrison Hotel. And the community was excited about the
prospects of a group that they thought was a coalition of
Christian churches coming into Florida and into Clearwater,
holding conventions and helping to revitalize downtown. However,
Mayor Gabe Cazares was the first one to discover the truth
about who this really was. Outraged, he announced to a stunned
community that the United Churches of Florida did not exist;
it was really the Church of Scientology who had bought the
Fort Harrison Hotel.
A press release issued by the Church of Scientology spokesman
Arte Maren attempted to downplay the significance of their
having purchased this property under false pretenses. And
in that press release he said, "Well, I hope the Mayor can
put an end to his concern that the city of Clearwater is being
taken over by Mafia hoods". As Mayor Cazares would discover
to his horror, the city of Clearwater had been taken over
by something even worse: A ruthless, criminal cult with totalitarian
aspirations.
The press release went on to say and to explain rather grandiosely,
that United Churches of Florida was Scientology's answer to
gigantic government, huge international corporations and a
dominated Media. It went on to say "We want the churches of
the United States and eventually the world to unite as a force
within society, to change our world for the better, to unite
as one voice on social matters and present-day concerns."
Twenty-five years later there is indeed a matter of great
present-day concern; but it is not what the extravagant words
this press release intended. For Mayor Gabe Cazares and for
all of us here at this conference, that concern is the continuing,
relentless take-over of a sizable American city by the cult
that calls itself the Church of Scientology.
Back in 1977 when, when the U.S. government raided three offices
of the Church of Scientology, among those 48,600 documents
that they seized from these three locations was information
about how the church planned to take over the city of Clearwater,
Florida in Project Normandy.
Mayor Cazares at the time, as you know, fought fiercely against
this organization. Gabe Cazares is very much involved in this
organization today called the Lisa McPherson Trust that we
have set up in downtown Clearwater. (holding up pages). You
know, two days ago I met with Gabe and these were his three
pages of handwritten notes for our little pow-wow about things
we needed to do in Clearwater, particularly over the course
of the next six months, to try to keep this ultimate take-over
that Scientology plans for Clearwater under check, or in check.
To give you an idea of the present-day atmosphere in Clearwater,
on February the 24th, Stacy Brooks--who is the president of
the Lisa McPherson Trust-and I met with Mike Roberto, who
is the City Manager in Clearwater, together with Pam Akin,
Clearwater's City Attorney. And we went there in an effort
to continue an education process of Mr. Roberto in terms of
who the organization was that the city of Clearwater had decided
to cozy up to, rather closely in our opinion and rather dangerously.
Well, Mr. Roberto said to us that he spent the last two years
since he came to Clearwater as City Manager trying to get
the Church of Scientology off the front pages of the local
newspapers in Tampa-St. Pete. And BOOM! The Lisa McPherson
Trust comes to Clearwater in January year 2000, and the Church
of Scientology is back on the front pages of the local newspaper.
The city of Clearwater doesn't like that. Mr. Roberto said
that it's bad for business. It is bad for economic development
in Clearwater. It is bad for development of the bay front
that they have in downtown Clearwater. He said every time
that your organization's conflict with Scientology spills
over and affects the business community in this town, we are
going to do everything we can to shut you down.
Now, Mr. Roberto didn't mean shutting down the organization
specifically, he meant shutting down whatever those activities
were, and the city of Clearwater, as any city in the United
States, has a very, very broad range of possibilities to curtail
activities of any nature; and especially when it is in regards
to something called a church.
I would refer you to a Cornell Law Review article in November
1999 if you want to get an idea of the types of laws and the
ways the courts in this country are moving towards picketing
near or around churches. There are some pretty chilling things
in there, pretty chilling weapons that communities or cities
have to fight people who are protesting the activities of
an organization like the Church of Scientology.
Well, basically, Mr. Roberto's messages was that, you know,
moral crusaders are not welcome in Clearwater. He suggested
that perhaps Los Angeles or Washington or Boston or even Dunedin
would be a better place for us to be. In fact he said, "You
know, the City Manager in Dunedin is a very close friend of
mine. I could get you waterfront property there if you prefer"
(laughter) "rather than your location next to the Church of
Scientology's Clearwater bank building."
Well, Mr. Roberto went on to explain that the city of Clearwater
had spent a lot of money over 20 years investigating the Church
of Scientology and they never even wrote them a parking ticket.
He said the federal government wasn't interested, the FBI
passed, passed the buck, they weren't interested after the
1977 raids and the 1980 convictions, you know; after that,
it was over as far as they were concerned. So Mr. Roberto
said, "Why should the city of Clearwater devote any money
into this effort?" You know, they even instructed the Clearwater
Police Department--from October of last year they can no longer
gather any intelligence information on Scientology and its
activities in the community. It's--you know, talking about
making a deal with the Devil. I mean, the new management in
Clearwater has been literally starting to make a deal with
the Devil because it's good for business. If Scientology is
not on the front pages of the paper, perhaps we could make
the city of Clearwater grow. We can have developers come in
and build high-rise condominiums all along the waterfront
and, you know, before it's over it'll look like, like the
coast of Spain, and the church will be a key part anyway.
This was a fairly discouraging response that we got from Mr.
Roberto and the City Attorney. But we told him that it really
isn't the public sector's responsibility to fight organizations
like this; it is a private sector responsibility. And we,
the Lisa McPherson Trust, should be embraced by the public
sector for what we're here trying to do--to educate this community
about what Scientology is.
When we opened our doors on January the 5th, we--we started
getting calls imMediately from citizens of Clearwater talking
about their concerns about Scientology, about how happy they
were that we were there, about how they were--they were, they
always look at Scientology with some sort of mysterious shroud
over it, that they were invited to community events many times
just--you know, they have a practice of going around and speaking
to various community groups, and they said, "When we asked
questions, they never answer our questions, you know, they
give us a run-around when we ask them questions. We'd really
like to know--we'd like for somebody to honestly answer questions
about what Scientology is." And, you know, I explained to
them that we have a number of former Scientologists working
here at the Lisa McPherson Trust who will be glad to sit down
and answer each and every question you have.
However, the one interesting aspect of the, the people that
we have talked to in Clearwater--not only called, but they,
they, particularly the first few weeks we were there, they
were coming in, into the office just to say "Hello", to introduce
themselves, to offer to volunteer. We do have a small staff
of volunteers now, they're manning the phones, doing scanning,
you know, all sorts of extraordinarily useful things that
none of us seem to have the time to do because we spend a
lot of time on the phone.
But one thing about these people in Clearwater is they are
frightened of Scientology. They live in a community, it's
roughly 100,000 people in Clearwater, I think there are 74,300
registered voters--and they genuinely have a fear of the Church
of Scientology. You know, a lot of people who call say, you
know "Look, I'm having to call you from a pay phone because
I don't want any phone record or anything on my bill that
I've talked to anybody at the Lisa McPherson Trust, because
we're afraid of the recriminations that Scientology might
pull on us."
We've had people come in from the community who picketed with
us down in Clearwater who had volunteered to do so with us
and one family for example, a husband, wife and child came
they spent considerable time with us learning more about Scientology.
They picketed with us several times and--what happens next?
I mean, they helped us also with our brochures, with the man
in graphic arts, um, they helped us with the brochures and
things of that nature, and then what happens next is a group
of Scientologists come to their neighborhood and start going
around asking questions about the husband and the wife. And
believe me, that type of thing has a chilling effect on somebody's
commitment to getting involved in a battle against the Church
of Scientology. I mean, they do extract a heavy price from
anybody who is willing to stand up and actively criticize
them. And there are plenty of people in this room that you
can ask who have experienced that, the wrath of the Church
of Scientology.
Now, just--before I go into the, the next aspect here, I want
to talk about Scientologists a little bit. I mean, at least
95% of Scientologists are totally wonderful, good, decent
people, maybe even 100%. But certainly the 95% that I've run
across on a regular basis are incredibly nice, decent people.
It is a very, very small group of people within the Church
of Scientology who are aspiring totalitarian leaders. They
have--they run this organization in a Nazi-like manner. They
intimidate people into being controlled so incredibly significantly
its beyond belief to me.
But we have--one of the most surprising things about what
we've been doing in the Lisa McPherson Trust is we're talking
to a lot of current Scientologists. We're not talking with
many Sea Org people because this is the, you know, the paramilitary
wing, a very, very highly conditioned group within the Church
of Scientology who is very hard to get through to. But the
public Scientologists have been out there on the Internet
for several years, and many of these people have come, come
and talked to me and said, you know, "We would have never,
ever thought about speaking to Bob Minton, but we've followed
your activities, we've followed the critics' activities and
the, the conflict, really between the Church of Scientology
and the Internet over the last three or four years." And it
has given them enough strength and courage to actually come
out and talk to one of the most evil people on the planet!
(laughter, then applause) And, you know, I think this is a
really big accomplishment in that we've only been in Clearwater
for two and a half months.
And to be talking not just--I say I'm talking with current
Scientologists, we're not talking with low-level Scientologists,
we have talked with some of those as well--but we're talking
to people who have reached the height of Scientology's Bridge
to Total Freedom; OT8's, OT7's. You know, these are people
who have been in Scientology for 15, 20 years, they are leaders
in the Clearwater community of Scientologists in the field--the
Scientology field, as they call it--in Clearwater. But these
people don't like the totalitarian aspect of Scientology.
They are finding out that they don't have to put up with it.
They are finding out the various possibilities to get all
of their money back. We are helping people get $700,000 back,
$600,000 back, $300,000 back from the Church of Scientology.
(applause)
This is a money machine. It is a money machine. They are stealing
people's money. You know, we sit and we listen to the stories
from a lady whose husband died, she's an elderly lady. She
had children in Scientology. She got involved to be closer
to the children. The husband died, he had a lot of money.
The reg for Scientology comes to her house the night her husband
died and will not leave until he gets the $700,000 that he
already knows the husband is giving the wife. And he got it.
But this lady is getting it back. She is tired--she was tired
of being ripped off by Scientology.
We are in Clearwater to make sure that the people in Clearwater
learn about the true nature of this organization, about the
abusive and deceptive practices that Scientology gets away
with on its own members. And we are there to help Scientologists
get their money back, help them with their divorce situation,
with their spouse who is still remaining in Scientology and
the father or the mother wants to leave.
We have mothers calling us about their child custody cases
where the father is now a Scientologist. This one particular
woman, she fell into the trap of letting the Scientology judicial
system help them solve their divorce case and then their child
custody case. The mother no longer has any visitation privileges
with her own child. And, all of her Scientology friends abandoned
her. These so called friends were the only ones who were allowed
to supervise visits between the mother and child because the
arrangement that they worked out with the Church of Scientology's
justice system required supervision. But when the woman departed
Scientology and everyone disconnected from her there were
no Scientologists to supervise visits.
Well, people are getting fed up with it. Scientologists are
getting fed up with it. I guarantee you; I'm fed up with it.
I would like nothing better than to be doing something else
other than fighting with the Church of Scientology. But they
are ruining people's lives. Our conference here is about human
rights. Scientology deprives its members of human rights.
Every Scientologist has a right to believe in the Scientology
technology if that's what they want to believe in. But the
Church of Scientology does not have the right to abuse people's
human rights, to attack everyone who speaks out against them,
and it has to stop. And the Lisa McPherson Trust is just one
more in a long line of organizations who have been fighting
Scientology and will continue to fight Scientology until this
organization reforms as best it can to the norms of society.
Thank you very much.
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