do you take medicine or drugs?.. .this type of thing...

Det.

Sudler:

Okay.

Kartuzinski:

Maybe fifteen or twenty questions. And she. . .she

answered. . .she answered the questions. Then at one

point she said. . . she told him and me that she

wanted to leave. She said “I want to leave.. I want

to go to the church with him”.. .meaning me. He said

“That’s fine”.. .he said “All the.. .all the answers

you’re giving me are right. . .but how do you explain

what you did today that you took your clothes off in

the street?” or “on the road”.. .1 don’t know what he

said exactly. So she said something like “You’re

right.. .this was not a rational action and I’m sorry.”

She was like embarrassed. She said "I'm sorry I did

that.. I think I wanted to create some effect.. .I’m

sorry I did it. .it’s not rational”.. .something to that

effect. Then she said again “But you know, I don’t want

to stay here.. .1 want to go to the hotel on Ft. Harrison

with him”.. .meaning me.. .“I don’t want to stay here”.

So then the nurse asked me if I could step out of the

room.. . that he wanted to ask her some questions with

her only there. So I.. .1 left the room but.. .you know

.1 stood in the.. . there is a corridor there. . .1 stood

there. And maybe three or four minutes later he came

out and he told me that he saw no need to keep her

there.. .that she’d answered the questions well.

Whatever had happened was over or whatever.

Det.

Sudler:

Okay. Do you remember how Lisa was acting? Did she

seem like her normalself?

Kartuzinski:

She was.. .as I said, ‘when I first went in there she

looked rather pale and a little upset. She ‘looked

upset and. ..

Det.

Sudler:

Was she crying?