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Kartuzinski:
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Yes. It’s David Slaughter.
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Kartuzinski:
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And he.
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.he informed me that she was in a.
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.in a
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room in the back. So I asked the receptionist... there was three ladies there and I asked one of them if they had.. .1 said that I was a minister from the church and I asked to be able to see Lisa McPherson. And a few minutes later, she directed me to where she was.
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Det. Sudler:
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Okay. Umm.
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.did you go back to where Lisa was at..
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you.
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.you saw her?
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Det. Sudler:
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Can you describe how Lisa was when you went back there?
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Kartuzinski:
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She was laying down but not totally laying down. Her.
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her.
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.the top of her bodywas sort of elevated. And she was in a conversation with a nurse.
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.a. .a male nurse who
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okay.
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so I came in and I told this nurse that I was a minister from the church. I looked at Lisa and said hi to her and she said hi to me and smiled at me.:
She was white.. .white.
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.pale. Det. Sudler: Okay.
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Kartuzinski:
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He introduced himself to me.
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.said he was Joe.. I
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don’t remember if he gave me his second name. But I don’t remember that I said my name either actually.
Det. Sudler:’ Okay.
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Kartuzinski:
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Then he informed me that he was just.
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.he just wanted
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to continue the.
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.asking her questions. Then Lisa grabbed my hand, so I.. .you know.. I held her hand as he was asking her questions.
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Det. Sudler:
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Do you remember what kind of questions he was asking?
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Kartuzinski’:
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Yes.
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.yes. He was asking her questions like “What is
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your name?.. .how old are you?.. .what is your address?. where do you work?.. .have you taken alcohol today or
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