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JO:
Do you know how she made amends?
OH:
No; I don’t know. I know that when she came back to Dallas she was
totally broke, she was working three jobs, at like a pizza place, and a cleaners, and somewhere else, trying to make enough money to pay off a debt, and I don’t know if that was to the church, or what.
SF:
Do you know um, Carol, if around that time, is when she claimed
bankruptcy?

OH:
It’s very possible. I don’t know. It’s very possible.
SF:
So, now she’s back in Dallas. She’s made contact with you, she’s basically
made a bad move with

OH:
Adrift
SF:
with the church. Adrift in her job, and in her whole personal life. Her mother
is failing, I understand her mother’s sick.
OH:
Right.
SF:
Her father is now dead.
OH:
Right.
JO:
Let me ask you this if I may. I think you gingerly going around it at the very
beginning, so as I got a clear picture. Was Lisa hanging onto the church because maybe she came from a dysfunctional family, and that was the source of

SF:
Was that like her touch stone, you know, like a stabilizing force for her?
OH:
I think it was very stabilizing for her. It was her source of stability.
SF:. And you made a comment to me last night on the phone that she totally
believed in the church

OH:
Absolutely. Absolutely.
SF:
And it’s workings.
OH:
Yes.
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