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did, basically, sold everything she owned in Dallas and followed him to California
and signed up.

SF:
Same thing.
OH:
The same thing.
SF:
I’ll be with, I’ll be a member of the church
OH:
Well, she was already a member of the church, but I think it was to actually
work at the organization, rather than having a separate, I mean as far as I know, with, and I’m not clear entirely about that time in California, she has always had a
separate job, or multiple jobs. She was a very hard worker, and urn, that was
something that she did with the rest of her time, but I don’t know what happened in California, but that’s the impression I got, was that it was a different level of commitment that she had made. When she got there and realized that regardless of what they were doing there their relationship was not gonna work. She had to come back, she left there and came back to Dallas, and that was after awhile. She had been there for awhile and at that point, urn, that’s when we re-connected and that was like in the 89 time frame. I have a letter from her in 89. It says, you know, “I’m so glad I got back in touch with you”, and whatever, so I’m pretty comfortable with that time frame. Now, I do know that that was also a very difficult time for her because, because she had left California and whatever agreement she had made which they, the church
considered a problem, or like a sin against the church, or whatever.
SF:
Because she made a commitment to stay in California, and she didn’t.
OH:
And didn’t. She was excluded from auditing for a period of time. She
couldn’t go and make use of them as a resource that she was very used to, and it was a very fragile and vulnerable time for her.

JO:
So, are you saying they basically kicked her out?
OH:
Yes. For a period of time;
JO:
Do you know if she was still making donations during that time.
OH: I don’t know at all. I know that she had to make amends, that she had to make reparation, or whatever, to them, for the harm she had done them by not

SF:
Like a confession type of thing.
OH:
Like penance.
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