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INVESTIGATOR Det. Ron Sudler
Today's date is 5/30/96. The time is 11:07 a.m. This is an interview with Ln Kartuzinski concerning the Lisa McPherson investigation. Present Lng the interview is myself (Det. Ron Sudler), Det. Carolyn Carrasquillo, attorney Bob Johnson, and Mr. Kartuzinski.


Det. Sudler:
For the record Mr. Kartuzinski, can you state your
name. . .spell it for me. . .and your date of birth and address?
Kartuzinski:
So my name is Alain.. .A L A I N.. .Kartuzinski.. .K A R T
U Z I N S K I., And I was born X, 1951, in X.
Det. Sudler:
And your address now is....?
Kartuziński:
At the X.
Det. Sudler:
Okay. And what is your position in the church now?
Kartuzinski:
I am what is called a senior case provider.
Det. Sudler: 
Okay. You had an occasion to I guess meet Lisa
McPherson or have some personal knowledge of Lisa McPherson. Is that correct,?
Kartuzinski:
As much as many hundreds of other parishioners.
Det. Sudler: Okay. But you know Lisa McPherson personally? If
you saw her you would know her?
Kartuzinski:
As much as.. .yes...as much as many hundreds of people.
Det. Sudler: Okay. Umm. . .do you recall an incident that occurred
back in the latter part of November 95 into December of 95 involving Lisa Mcpherson?
Kartuzinski:
Yes, I do.
Det. Sudler:
Okay. Umm.. .you were a senior case supervisor. Were
you assignedt o LisaMcPherson? 
Kartuzinski:
No. I possibly should explain what my job is.
Det. Sudler:
Okay. .
Kartuzinski:
It consists of supervising case supervisors.
Det. Sudler: Okay.

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