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Q.
Okay. And did he respond in writing or just
respond by --with records, here’s records that we have, or
what was his response?
 
A.
Yes, sir, he did. And I gave you a copy of that.
Q.
Did you ever ask —— I realize that he says this
is —- he may respond, these are all the records we have
left. Did you go a step beyond that and say’, well, you
should have these records too, do you know what happened to
them or where they are? 
 
A.
No, I didn’t do that.
Q.
Did you do that in any of your other searches?
Did you make specific inquiry as to things that were missing
in the submissions, as to where they might be or did they
have knowledge of their destruction or had they ever seen
it? In other words, did you ever ask anybody was it in
there in 1995?
 
A.
No, sir.
Q.
Even though it’s not there in 1997 when you get
the subpoenas, have you ever asked anybody, well, did it
used to be there? 
 
A.
No, I did not do that.
Q.
What about Ben Shaw, have you ever talked to him
about specifically the missing records?
 
A. Yes.
 
Q.
Okay. Tell me about your conversation with him.

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