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Q.
But go ahead, what does non—optimum mean
A.
Since she died ——
Q.
That’s a euphemism for death or what? ‘ 
A.
In this particular case, yes.
Q.
All right.
A. So we ——we —— I went to CF files, I remember,
public ethics files, public student files, I made a list of
her friends in the local area and started contacting them to
see what they knew, what they could tell me about Lisa. We
had no idea. I hadn’t -- we didn’t even know she was from
Texas. We didn’t know that -— well, we didn’t know anything
about her at all.
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And we gathered those documents together. I
started to put them in a chronological form.
 
Q.
Let me backtrack.
Are you just looking for documents or are you
talking to people at the same time, are you interviewing
people?
 
A.
. No, I was looking for documents.
Q.
Okay. And one thing I’m still unclear on, were
you looking for an ethics folder?
Is that one of the things
you were looking for?
A. Public ethics folder, yes. 
 
Q.
Is there another ethics folder other than the
public ethics folder? 

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