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Q. Then what the heck were you looking for?
 
MS. VAUGHAN: He was explaining that.
A.
Any information about her. I believe -— well, I
certainly didn’t, but I believe Mr. Elliott Abelson didn’t
know anything about Lisa Mcpherson, except that there was a
situation and that she had died and that there was an
investigation and --by the police at that time. And that,
of course, this is quite an non—optimum matter, so let’s
find out some data about her.
 
Q.
A what matter? Not optimum? —
A.
Non-optimum. 
Q.
What do you mean by that?
MS.
VAUGHAN:
Again, to the extent —- are you
characterizing what Elliott has told you —-
THE
WITNESS:
No.
MS.
VAUGHAN:
—- or what discussions you had
with Elliott?
 
A. No, I’m just actually myself —— it’s like somebody
has died, this is not good. Non-optimum meaning —— optimum
meaning the best circumstances. 
 
Q.
Meaning it’s bad?
A.
No.‘
MS. VAUGHAN:
It’s good that somebody dies?
MR. CROW: He said not good. I thought it
was obvious not good meant bad.

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