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A.
Operating Thetan.
Q.
And what does that mean?
A.
That’s —- let’s see. That means the individual can operate as a spirit
 
Q.
And explain that to me.
A.
With difficulty.
Q. Go ahead. Well, you —— you’ve been with this
Church since 1981, so I mean
 
A.
An OT is an individual who is at cause over S
themselves in spiritual matters.
 
Q.
I don’t understand your syntax here. You’re going
to have to try a little bit harder.
 
A.
I’m trying. I’m not an OT myself --
Q.
I’ll be patient with you.
A.
—— so I don’t have any personal experience.
But an individual who probably understands more of
themselves as a spiritual being and can operate —— some
individuals have been able to leave their body and still be
conscious of themselves as a spiritual being.
 
S Q
Okay. Are we saying that the --an OT has the ability to have an out-of—body experience? Is that —-
A.
Yes.
Q.
-- one of the things that -- that they supposedly gain by this additional
A.
Yes.

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