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A.
Exactly.
Q.
So that would mean he’s pretty far up there in
the chain of command?
 
A.
Correct.
Q.
And that would be the reason you would ask him
how she’s doing, because you felt that he was in charge?
 
A.
I asked him, as I thought he had an information
flow that would come to him to give him an idea of what
was happening.
 
Q.
All right. Now, as far as your role,, because
you are in charge of Sam and Alphonso, as far as your
role, would you then answer to Alain Kartuzinski as far as
any decisions on Lisa’s behalf?
 
A.
No.
Q.
All right. So if you went to the room and Lisa
said to you, “I’m going to leave now,” you would have the
authority to allow her to leave?
 
A.
That is correct. I don’t know that we would
ever have the authority not to let her leave if she was
asking to leave unless she was self—destructive or some
obvious problem there.
I have to clarify that my job was to insure that
she didn’t hurt herself and that she didn’t hurt someone
else, right, and that she -- the only reason I put those
trainees there, after I found out she had hurt somebody

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