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Q.
When you talked to Alain Karduzinski on the 25th
with Dr. Houghton, did he mention either Janice Johnson or
Dr. Minkoff?
 
A.
No.
Q.
Does Alain Karduzinski -- does he have some kind
of medical training, do you know?
 
A.
Not to my knowledge. May have, but I’m not
aware of it.
 
0.
Okay. It was his idea to give aspirin and
Benadryl to - -
 
A.
Not necessary his idea. He was -- he gave the
permission.
 
Q.
So am I to understand correctly that it was
Dr. Houghton’s idea or your idea?
 
A.
I really don’t know. Dr. Houghton said that he
was going up to Alain’s office to check with him, and
would I come with him, because I would go and pick it up
at the drugstore. I had the car.
 
Q.
So if Dr. Houghton was to want to give Benadryl
to Lisa, he would have to get Alain Karduzinski’s
permission?
 
A.
Right.
And he -- and he would - - he bases it on the
works of L. Ron Hubbard, that we live by and follow.
 
MR. POLLI:
Say that again?

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