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an effort, physical effort to go out.
 
Q.
Of course, she couldn’t leave without Alain
Karduzinski’s permission anyway, correct?

A.
Right.
Q.
You said that, on the night of the 25th, someone
came to your apartment, and then you -- who were --
 
A.
No, that was the night of the 5th.
Q.
I’m sorry. The night of the 5th, someone came
to your apartment and wanted you to go to a meeting. You
said, “told us” and “we,” that “we were” --
Who were you with in your apartment?
 
A.
My other regular roommates.
Q.
Who was that?
A.
My -- Daphne Farrell is -- I share a room with
Daphne Farrell.
 
Q.
But Daphne had nothing to do with the watch?
A.
No.
Q.
Just because she had contact with you, she
was - -
 
A.
Right.
Q.
That was --
Okay. During -- you were there for the first.
week of the watch, give or take
- -
 
A.
Yeah.
Q.
And at that time, you consider Lisa’s problems

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