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CH:
No, it would have been prior to that. We were, we were pretty young, um,
it was before she went to California, and she was there for several years.

SF:
Right.
OH:
This was when she first got into Scientology. We were like twenty, or
twenty-one.
SF:
This would have been sixteen, seventeen years ago.
CH:
Right. This would have been the very first, because that’s the first time in
process

JO:
1980? Early eighties?
CH:
Yeah, could have been early eighties, or 1980.
JO:
Just so we have an idea so when we (inaudible) that contact was in the late
seventies or early eighties.

OH:
Correct. And at that point, nobody else that she knew of with the exception
of the woman that she worked with, as far as I know, uh, was involved in Scientology. Her husband certainly was not at that time, and her family was not aware of what, what Scientology was or anything, and to be honest, I’m not sure Lisa did either. At that point, she was very young, and she was very excited about the process of learning about it, and feeling like she was doing something for herself.

SF:
Positive for her
CH:
Very positive.
SF:
Okay. And just, just, you just reminded me something, Carol, she had kind
of a rocky childhood, you understand her brother committed suicide and I think
her father, did her father commit suicide as well?

CH:
He did.
SF:
Do you what hap, what that was about?
CH: Um, Lisa and I were very good friends during junior high and her brother
committed suicide the year that we were in ninth grade, which would have been, I think, the 73-74 school year, and uh, I don’t know the exact circumstances around

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