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CH:
I’m not, I don’t remember if she was living with her mother at that point. I
know she went back to Dallas to be with her mom, but I don’t think they lived together very long.

SF: Okay. And then how about contact that you had after that point?

CH:
Um, since then we spoke at least a few times a year, sometimes more
often, sometimes not, depending on what we were doing, and what was going
on.

SF: Okay, did you have any contact with her when she moved to Clearwater?
CH:
Yes.
SF:
Okay, can you remember the last contact that you had with Lisa, prior to her
death?
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CH: Um, the last contact that I had with her was at least a few weeks before Thanksgiving, possibly a month before Thanksgiving, just before she died, um, and we spoke by phone.

SF:
Okay, and the context of the conversation?
CH:
As I remember it, um, Lisa, we had a very brief conversation which was
unusual, normally we talked for a long time, and she called and said she had, she was very happy, she had just attested to clear in her Scientology church and she said “I can’t say enough about the technology, I wake up every day and it’s like I’m going out to play” and told me that her life couldn’t have been better. That was that last time we spoke.

SF: Okay. And, over the years, did you and Lisa mutually discuss her
involvement in the church?

CH:
We did, um, talk about Scientology and shared, she shared books with me
periodically, um, we talked about it in terms of other things though, not ever as a really, as a primary focus of the conversation. If I was going through a particular event, you know, she would say, “Well, this is how I would deal with that”, or “this is we would say” or just not we would do, but “this is how I would process that or do that”.

SF:
Okay. Um, do you know when she first got involved in the church? Do you
know the circumstances surrounding that?

CH:
I have some knowledge of it, not a lot, not the exact details. Um, I left
Austin a year before we graduated from high school and moved, I’m sorry, I left

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