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OH:
Urn, Lisa was always very outgoing and very cheerful, always had a smile
on her face, and um,

SF:
Well, that was in front of the camera. Do you know, I mean, was she like
that all the time?

OH:
Pretty much. I mean, she wasn’t, you know she went through a lot of hard
times as a youngster and urn, the only time as adults that, I mean, although we had sad times and we talked about that, but I don’t think it was anything unreasonable or anything that wasn’t normal. The only time that I really saw her
very fragile was uhi, when she came home from California and she was
excluded from auditing and she was a wreck. She was totally beside herself.

SF:
And the last conversation that you had with her in November, she in no way
mentioned to you leaving Clearwater ,or

OH:
No, she didn’t. Urn, a previous conversation that we had had, just add
some information there, in a previous conversation that we had while she was in Clearwater, she told me a few things about Clearwater right after she got there and after she had been there for awhile. When she first got there, she was um, really into it, you know, she said, “this is amazing the auditing that’s here is a whole different level, it’s a whole different thing going on, I’m really making some breakthroughs”, and she was very excited and she was, she was moving in circles with people that she believed were real movers and shakers, you know, they were people who had lots of money, it was a very urn, international crowd, there were people that she talked about

SF:
Were they members of the church?
OH:
Oh, absolutely.
SF:
Is that who you’re referring to?
OH:
Oh yeah.
SF:
Okay.
OH:
Yeah. The only people she really associated with, as far as I know, were
people in the church.

SF:
Other than some of her old girlfriends, like on occasion she’d call you,
OH: Me, maybe
SF: Or Kelly once in awhile.

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