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Church?
 
A.
I’m sure they do, yeah.
Q.
That’s the -- do they work under the office of
Special Affairs? Is that 
 
A.
They -- no.
Q.
No? Have you talked to anybody from the office
of Special Affairs about this case?
A.
Have I talked to the them? Enough to get ahold
of Mr. Darken and the other lawyer, whatever his name is, Bob Johnson.
Q.
I didn’t hear your answer?
A.
Well, I’ve talked to them relative to, you know,
having an attorney, et cetera. 

Q.
  Okay. So you went to the office of Special
Affairs, they appoint you an attorney, or get you an
attorney?
 
A. I don’t know, who.
 
Q.
Okay. Okay. -
A.
Obviously there is a concern on my part.’
Q.
Mm-hmm? But there -- but there’s been no -- did
you ,ever converse with them concerning this case? Did
they ever, a - - did they ever advise you on what to do in
this case? 
 
A.
No.
Q.
Nobody’s ever told you what to do or say in this

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