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A.
No.
Q.
Any scratches? 
A.
No.
Q.
Marks? Abrasions? 
A.
No.
Q.
You saw her face, but you didn’t see -- you saw
her eyes but you didn’t see her face? 

A. Right.

 
Q.
You say these two guards were Hungarian?
A.
I presume. 
Q.
Do you know if they’re still there?
A.
I don’t know.
Q.
Have you the ever seen them since then?
A.
I honestly don’t recall who they were.
Q.
And there was no conversation in the room --
excuse me, no conversation in the room prior to your picking up Lisa and taking her outside?
A.
No. It was -- we talked about how we were going
to get her moved.
Q.
Okay. And you said you lifted her under her arm
pits? 
A.
Mm-hmm. 
Q.
Now, I’ve done that before with people, either
deceased or close to it. There’s always a problem with the hands. What did you do with her hands? Usually when

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