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just like to - - to know where all the parties stood in
this whole thing. It’s kind of hard to get to the bottom.
Did he represent the Church did he represent you, or do you know?
A.
Well, I have no agreement 
Q.
Okay.
 
A. -- of any kind. So he was there.  All right. Have you ever paid him any money?

A.
No. I’ve  I had no agreement with him at all.
S
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Right.
A.
He was just there.
Q.
So he was, there representing -- maybe
representing you, the Church, whoever, but you didn’t have a contract with him, where you sat down and agreed to pay
that individual money?

A. No. No.
 
Q.
Does that exist between you and Mr. Darken here?
S ‘ ‘ MR. DARKEN: Objection. That’s privileged. S
His knowledge of that subject is obtained through
 
attorney-client privileged communications. -
BY MR. MCGARRY:
 
Q. Okay. But to the best of your knowledge, right
now, this is the lawyer that represents you, correct?
A. Yes.
 
Q.
Are you paying this man for this representation?

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