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there?
A.
No.
Q.
Do you recall the route you took?
A.
An, yeah. We went up Cleveland to Gulf-to-Bay,
and then north on 19.
 
Q.
And during the time that you’re driving up
there, did you ever see any physical movement, any type of
- - of voluntary movement or acknowledgement at all out of Lisa Mcpherson in that ride?
A.
No.
Q.
So up until now you have yet to see a single
voluntary movement or voluntary action, or acknowledgement whatsoever out of Lisa?
A.
That’s right.
Q.
But you indicate that she was alive, because you
could hear her breathing?
 
A.
Yes.
Q.
Other than hearing her breathe, that is the only
thing that you could tell, as far as not doing a physical
examination of her, that she was alive?
 
A.
That’s right.
Q.
Now, in the van what conversation is taking
place between the three of you that could talk?
A.
None. 
Q.
And was there a -- Was there something -- How

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