26

26
A. Well, at that time I just noticed they were open and she was breathing heavily.
Q.
All right. Did she make  I mean, did you
notice when you went in this room, did she ever and even when you picked her up -- did she ever do anything physical at all?
 
Did she ever make any voluntary movement of any
extremity or any body part, that you could tell?
A.
Not that I could tell.
Q.
Okay. So Laura instructed you to help her move
Lisa? 
A.
  Right.
Q.
How did you do so physically? If you’ll outline
that? 
A.
Just picked her up.
Q. You did that by yourself?
A.
No, I picked up her upper torso.
Q.
Okay. Hands underneath her arm pits?
A. Yeah.
 
Q.
Okay. And I assume Laura took the other end?
A.
Yes.
Q.
Okay. When you picked her up was she limp or
was she rigid? Can you describe her body? 
A.
Well, she wasn’t rigid. She wasn’t helping,
let’s put it that way.

26