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watch?

A.
It appears to me that Janice was responsible for
her physical care and Alain was responsible for her,
spiritual care, but that Alain was ultimately the one
calling the shots.

Q.
Well, we’ve had testimony here that backs up what
you say. We’ve had people that say that Lisa could not have
been moved regardless, unless Alain Kartuzinski gave his
okay. Do you agree with that?

A.
No.
Q.
You don’t agree with that?
A.
Unh-unh. I think anybody there, if they saw a
medical emergency, had the right and obligation to call 911.

Q.
Well, I agree with you. I agree 100 percent with
you, but that’s not what they’re telling us. They’re
telling us —-

A.
That’s not what I heard from —— I mean, that’s not
what I’ve heard from everybody that I talked to. If they
saw what they considered an emergency, and I know there’s
some dispute as to what people —- whether people accurately
made that decision or not. We’re,riot saying whether they
accurately made the call at the time in retrospect, I’m
saying that any one of those caretakers could,have blown the
whistle on it.

Q.
I agree with you, but we have taken testimony from

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