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A.
Right.
I had several conversations with Bob Johnson by
phone.

Q.
Okay.
A.
And that was really it.
Q.
When was the first time you actually came to -- to
Clearwater in reference to Lisa McPher~on?

A.
In reference to this case?
Q.
Yes.
A.
December, 1996.
Q.
That was almost a year later?
A.
Yeah.
Q.
Some —— some general questions in reference to
standard protocol, if there is such a thing as standard

protocol for after a parishioner —- I guess she’s a
parishioner —— parishioner passes away.

What happens —- what happens to her PC folders,

ethics folders, all her folders? I know there are a number
of different folders, but what happened to them?

A.
They will be boxed up and archived and kept.
Q.
In Clearwater?
A.
Either in Clearwater or Los Angeles, one or the
other. ‘ It -- it would depend.

The files —— the pre—Clear folders are actually
owned by Church of Scientology International, as are the

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