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last and present. I’m just trying to nail it down to which
day.
 
Q.
That’s last week?
A.
That’s  week, yeah.
Q.
You talked to him in the last week since 
A.
Right. 
Q.
—— we took your statement?
And what did he say?
A.
It’s very simple, Do you have any idea where these
things have gone? He said, No idea. —
 
Q.
And why did you talk to him?
A.
Well, I guess it’s because of he and I have —— you
know, we came here, with Mr. Abelson, okay, and I was, like,
out of desperation, I don’t want to use the word curious,
because I wasn’t really curious, I was like, Where the hell
did these things go? His response really was, I don’t know.
 
Q. Okay. Well, let me be more specific. Why did you
pick Mr. Shaw to ask that question of?
 
A.
Well, he is —— he’s the —— what do you call it?
It’s really  he and I worked together on this with
Mr. Abelson. And if anybody outside of the attorneys here
and Elliott would know, it would be him.
 
Q.
Okay.
A.
In any you know, in any manner, way, shape or
form.

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