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Grade IV and above or above Grade IV?
A.
Above Grade IV.
Q. So you can look at all Grade IVs and below?
 
A.
Exactly. 
Q.
Since you couldn’t look at Miss McPherson’s, did
you look at the PC folders of all the other people whose
records we subpoenaed? 
 
A.
No, sir. No.
Q.
Okay. Are they all above Grade IVs?
A.
I don’t know, actually.
Q.
Did you even check?
A.
No.
Q.
Why is that?
A.
Because, well, we’re talking about Lisa McPherson and her records.
 
 
Q. Well, we’re talking about the caretakers’ records
that they wrote concerning Lisa McPherson, so the records
relate to both individuals.
 
A.
Yes —— well, no, not actually. The caretakers
were writing reports about Lisa, and they wouldn’t go in
their PC folders in
any. way.
 
Q.
Okay. And you’re certain of that? 
A.
Absolutely. 
Q.
Okay. When I asked you to describe the contents
of the PC folder you referred to auditing and auditing

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