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incident, afterwards?
 
A.
(Shakes head)
Q.
Never sat down with anybody and said, “This is
what happened, I think,” and, “This is what happened,”
or--
A. (Shakes head). 
Q.
No?
Okay. I’m just going to touch on this for a
minute: We interviewed Heather -- which is now Petzold,
right?
 
A.
Yes.
Q.
And she had told us, under oath, that she had
went to someone -- and I don’t know if she said it was you
or Alain Karduzinski -- and said, basically, “Listen, this
girl is getting worse. Things are not good here. We need
to do something different for this girl. I don’t like the
way things are going.”
Are you familiar with that statement? Did she
ever come to you and say that?
 
A.
No.
Q.
Were you familiar with her attitude concerning
the care of Lisa?
 
A.
No.
Q.
Alain never bothered to talk to you about that?
A.
No.

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