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incident, afterwards?
 
 
 
 
what happened, I think,” and, “This is what happened,” 
 
A. (Shakes head).  
 
 
Okay. I’m just going to touch on this for a
 
minute: We interviewed Heather 
-- 
which is now Petzold,  
 
right? 
 
 
went to someone 
-- 
and I don’t know if she said it was you  
or Alain Karduzinski -- and said, basically, “Listen, this girl is getting worse. Things are not good here. We need to do something different for this girl. I don’t like the way things are going.” 
Are you familiar with that statement? Did she  
 
ever come to you and say that? 
 
 
the care of Lisa? 
 
 
 
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