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A.
No.
Q.
-- as well?
A.
No.
Q.
‘You weren’t, at that time?
A.
Not at that time, no.
Q.
You just knew about them.
A.
Yeah.
Q.
In your conversation,, your face-to-face
conversation with Mr. Karduzinski, did you guys discuss a
plan or procedure for Lisa McPherson?
 
A.
Only that she would be put under watch, you
know, gotten stabilized out, and then gone on to
introspective run-down when she was able to be audited.
 
Q.
All right. There’s -- there’s written
procedures, I presume, that were penultimately written by
Mr. Hubbard --
 
A.
Mm-hmm.
Q.
- - on this procedure, right - -
A.
Right.
Q.
-- for the watch and for the introspective
run-down.
 
A.
Right.
Q.
Now, are you familiar with those procedures?
A.
No.
Q.
Who is?

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