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Good. So on the 
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there’s certain levels. 
 
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I’m the 
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what is called OT3, like the third grade up.
 
 
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Okay. All right. When you went to security  
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in ‘91, who was the person in charge at that time? Do  
you remember? 
 
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There was a 
guy 
called George Hughes who I 
 
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think was the chief of security at that time. 
 
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Okay. And did you go through some training  
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in reference to your new job description? 
 
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Okay. And was he the person that supervised  
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the training at that time? 
 
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Yes, yes. There were not 
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let me just say 
 
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this: There were not many people in the security force  
at that time, so there was very 
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I understand it’s increased 
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-- 
greatly over the last few years due to all 
 
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the bomb threats probably, right? 
 
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Yeah. Did you have any formal training in  
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security back in Australia or outside the church? 
 
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Your formal education, how far did that go? 
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I was going to college, and then I opted to 
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