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A.
It would have worked that way, yeah.
Q.
Okay.
A.
It would have worked that way. I mean, I
would have been the person that he would receive
instructions from and so forth. (

Q.
Okay. And your instructions were coming from
Mr. Kartuzinski, or were they from —- also from Paul?

A.
With regard to what?
Q.
With the procedure for the added needs of
Lisa McPherson.

A.
Both.
Q.
Okay. Now, we’ve kind of got to that point
there. Did you have further meetings with either Paul
or Mr. Kartuzinski in reference to how —— what
procedures were going to be implemented as far as the
needs of Lisa Mcpherson?

A.
Yes.
Q.
Okay. And when was that and what was said
with -- who was this conversation with?

A.
All right. The -- the matter of -- oh, boy,
when? There were a few times we —— we talked, okay.
Paul Kellerhals first. He was my immediate superior --

Q.
Right.
A.
—— so he was involved with me with regard to
the security involvement of this concern. Alain


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