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room when you went back in?
 
A.
No. I mean, I didn’t go into the room. Lisa
came out, and then as I was walking with her back to
the room, by the time that I was walking back with her
Janice had stepped outside of the room, so I
-- I don’t
know where she was in the room at the time
 
Q.
Okay. And you can’t remember what Janice
said to you about how she got out of the room?
 
A.
Not exactly, no.
Q.
How about unexactly? Try that.
A.
Just that she had done something which Janice
didn’t predict was gonna happen —-
 
Q.
That’s all?
A.
-- was -- was the gist of it.
Q.
Now, you said in the briefing with Arthur
Baxter that he said something to the effect that Lisa
was an emotional wreck. Is that what he said or —— or
did he give you some other instructions?
 
A.
I believe he said type three. He described
it to me a bit as, you know, she would talk and not
make sense of what she was saying. At times she would
have violent outbursts. That was basically what he
described to me.
 
Q.
From your knowledge of the church
organization, was it unusual to have a public member

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