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something’s wrong, you know. We all can talk to people
and realize something’s wrong.
 
A.
We’re talking about a church member running
up to me?
 
Q.
Yeah, a church member, a staff member or it
could be a public member, and they’re running up and
you’re thinking oh, my conversation with this person is
not going anywheres and this may be a PTS three person.
Do you have training that’s been provided by the church
what you do with that person?
 
A.
No, nothing really.
Q.
Okay.
Who would you notify?
A.
The security chief.
Q.
Okay.
Who is now Paul Kellerhals?
A.
Right.
Q.
Okay.
You said that you were like on these
watches from night until in the morning. Were they
11- or 12-hour watches? How -- there was two people
doing the watch, I understand. We talked to Alfonso.
 
A.
Right.
Q.
And you and him were kind of assigned to the
watch, and when he wasn’t there, you were there?
 
A.
Right.
Q.
So would that be like a 12-hour watch?
A.
No. I was on it a bit less time than he was.
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