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Q.
What was the reason why you were —- who told
you to not participate in this anymore?
 
A.
Arthur Baxter.
Q.
And why did he tell you that?
A.
It wasn’t particularly -I wasn’t seen as
being needed anymore.
Q. What did you think he meant by that?
 
A.
Lisa seemed to be -- I don’t know if you
would say a bit more relaxed or not —— not as -— not as
violent as she had been before and it wasn’t deemed
necessary for me to be there.
 
Q.
All right. Was there any -- rather than
going through it every day like we were just doing, is
there any events where your assistance physically was
needed to help out inside where there was an event
going on inside the room that required your assistance
that sticks out in your mind?
 
A.
The only time that I can recall specifically
was Joan Stevens asked me to come in and help her one
time. I don’t remember what the circumstances —-
why -- why she asked me for that, but I came in and I
just had Lisa sit down on the bed. That was about --
that was about it. I know that Joan got hit in the eye
around that time. I don’t know if it was before she
came out or after.

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