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A.
I don’t --
Q.
So that is not really correct, that is just a
misunderstanding by Alphonso?
 
A.
It must be, because I don’t recall telling him
anything about visitors, right.
 
And my only instructions regarding her leaving,
right, are not -- it isn’t even the point of leaving, the
point was is she going to hurt herself or is she going to
hurt another person, or should she leave that space and
jump into the street, is he going to look after that and
make sure that doesn’t happen.
That guard went out there, and it is not a
guard, it is more or less a volunteer, he wasn’t a
security guard and wasn’t posted as one at that time, to
prevent somebody from actually getting hurt. And that is
all the reason. And that is all I can say about it.
 
Q.
I would understand that more if -- and my
thinking is I understand that more if the inside of the
door was locked and it had to be opened with a key, more
so than the door
being locked from the outside and having
Sam and Alphonso sharing the possession of that key.
And you get what I’m saying is that Lisa could
run to the door, open the door, run out and run into the
street and get hurt, whereas you have a security guard
outside the door with a key, who I think you testified

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