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couldn’t be -- several days to a week after she died.
Q.
And you got the reports from Judy?
A.
No, I got them from
Q.
From --
A.
—— from Alain.
Q.
Okay. 
A.
There was no discussion involved I think I was
asked to get the reports, or see if he had any, and, if
so, could I help her round them up because she was having
to —— it may have been -- you know, it might not even have
been Judy, I don’t think it was Judy, but it was somebody
in OSA. That is all I can remember.
And I remember standing in the doorway asking,
“Do you have them?” and they were given to me, and I put
them on my clipboard, or if there was —— it is so vague, I
can’t even remember, but I remember a picture of me asking
for information.
 
Q.
You asked the question to Kartuzinski?
A.
To Kartuzinski.
Q.
Kartuzinski gave you papers you think had
something to do with Lisa’s death in reference to reports?
 
A.
It had something to do with Lisa, not
necessarily her death, but with Lisa. And it -- the
question, “Do you have any paperwork here on Lisa
McPherson” would have been the question. “If so, I’ll
 
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