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getting them able to be security guards, right.
And that involves primarily training, right.
And a lot of that is on church policies so they understand
how the church works, right, and what is going on, and
some basic training on law and that kind of stuff.
So he was -- at that time Sam wasn’t a security
guard, he had not been posted, he was in training.
 
Q.
And another fellow by the name of Alphonso
Barcenas?
 
A.
Yes, he’s currently security guard. At that
time he was in the same status as Sam was.
 
Q.
Okay.
A.
Just so you understand, at that time I had just
gotten about six new guys, just before that, into
security, right, and these are two of the guys. We had a
little training pool and I said, “You guys, study.”
 
Q.
And they were a couple of them?
A.
Yes.
Q.
Had you ever met Lisa McPherson prior to her
stay, which would have been November 18th, have you ever
met her prior to that stay in 1995?
 
A.
(Shakes head).
THE REPORTER:
Your answer out loud.
A.
No.
Q.
So when did you first learn that you had a guest
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