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I mean, certainly, I do 
courses 
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That’s why you’re there. 
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on a regular basis.
 
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I’m there to help my church. That’s why I’m  
there 
 
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What level have you achieved, as far as your  
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course materials are concerned? Is there a level? 
 
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I talked to Dr. Minkoff. He said he was an 0T8. 
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That just needs a little clarification. There’s  
two sides to that. Training, and there’s 
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the courses,  
and then there’s the auditing.
 
 
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I’m OT4 in the auditing portion. 
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And your wife’s doing this, too, right? 
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MR. McGARRY:  
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All right. I’m done with my  
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questions. If you want to take a break, we can, but I  
think we probably can wrap this up pretty quickly, if you  
want to. 
 
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MR. POLLI:  
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I’ve got a hearing at 
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