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A. Yes.
 
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And that was on the 24tth? 
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A.  
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Yes. Late that evening. 
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Q.  
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All right. And when, if ever, was that Valium 
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A To my knowledge, 
it 
was never used
 
 
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All right. And why is that? 
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A.  
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Again, to my knowledge, Mr. Kartuzinski didn’t  
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want her to have anything that heavy. 
 
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And he was running the spiritual end of this. 
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So I suspect that you talked to Mr. Kartuzinski  
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on the night of the 25th and indicated to him that you’d  
been, on the 24th, to pick up the Valium? 
 
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And that is the opportunity he took to tell  
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you-- 
 
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A.  
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He certainly knew we had the Valium, right. And  
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he didn’t want to give her anything that heavy. 
 
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Okay. Now, other than the stuff we’ve already  
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covered, is there something 
-- 
any other contact or area  
that you think might be pertinent towards this  
investigation?
 
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