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Who makes those decisions? 
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I honestly couldn’t tell you that, either. 
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Did you ever talk with Mr. Kartuzinski 
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other than that time on the 25th?
 
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About this particular thing? 
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I talked to him 
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I’m trying to remember if I
 
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talked to him again on the 27th or if I didn’t talk to him  
again on the 27th. 
 
I don’t know that I talked to him or not, quite  
honestly. 
 
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How about Dr. Minkoff? Do you know him? 
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Did you talk to him about this whole thing? 
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Since it occurred? Brief touching-on-it, once. 
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How about during this week, here? Did you ever  
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call him and talk to him about this deal? 
 
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What day did that fall on? 
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Would have been Friday, the 24th. 
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And what was the nature of that phone call? You  
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called him? 
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