one of them specifically I remember telling Det. Sudler was she went on this long thing on how she was a bad person because she.did not do the dishes before she went to bed and she has a roommate. And there was more to this dishes story, but I wasn’t paying attention to that because I knew it wasn’t. . .that wasn’t gonna help me with what I was dealing with right there. I was more or less listening to what she was saying but only pulling out the things that I could come back and re-direct with. Umm.. .so out of the dishes question. . . the dishes story. . I did come up with a question or a statement or something that made her reflect upon herself and give me an ‘answer because. . I know that because my partner stated after the call was over “God, you’re good”. He said “How did you get that out of I didn’t do the dishes?” He goes “I would’ve never done that”

• . .you know. . .got. .pulled that question out of there. .. Umm. . .1 was just linking together little things that she was saying. 13mm. . . so basically what it came down to was Lisa said she wanted help. She knew she needed rest. And umm.. .she knew she couldn’t

.she couldn’t do what she’s doing now. She.. .she needed someone in her words to talk to. . . “I need someone to talk to”. And I’m an ambulance.. .1. ..i told her I couldn’t stay on scene and talk but I can take her to a place where they would listen and umm. and they would.. .you know. . . “You could talk to them... is this what you want?” And she said “Yes”. But... but initially she was like “No, no, no.. .I’m okay”. But I told her umm. .you know. . “It sounds like you’ve got a lot going on” and that “It would be good for you to take time now and talk”. Because she had