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room was exactly a room where we kept all 
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all these  things. So I would take all the —- the -- the clothes and everything that were already dirty and would see that they were properly cleaned and everything, and provide the -- the new ones. They were there to help her, feed, clean and be with her. 
 
 
harm herself or whatever.
 
 
Alain Kartuzinski?
 
 
 
A. Now .1 know him. By the time I didn’t. 
 
J-a—c—c-o-t? Do you know who that person is? 
 
 
is the person that actually organized and got all these  women together and put them on a schedule? Who did that? Do you know who did that? 
 
 
 
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