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BY MR. STROPE:
Q.
That’s the only time you ever saw a physical
altercation between Lisa and this security guard?
A.
Well, the only time was when Paul Kellerhous
came in the room and she took his pen and tried to, you know, punch him or whatever, and he had to stop her. That’s the only time any security came in the room.

Q.
Okay, I am almost done here. During the time
of this watch, there was a time when, it may or may not have been obvious to you, you can tell me if it wasn’t,
this thing went from a mental illness to maybe a physical illness. Did you realize maybe she had some problems?
 
A.
I did realize she was -- she had lost weight
and that she was tired, that I realized. That came to my mind that she had something physical for sure.
 
Q.
Did anybody at that time say maybe we should
get her some medical help, a doctor, a hospital?
A.
No.
Q.
Did she have access to her family? Did
somebody call her family to see about taking her to a medical hospital?

A.
No.
Q.
So she didn’t have access to her family or
her family didn’t have access to her? Was her family

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