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A.
I don’t remember the name of the person.
Q.
Okay. • Let me ask you this, the Scientology
security, they are a very professional organization, they have bicycle patrols and everything else, and security, when it shows up at this room at that time when you are there with Alphonso Barcenas, could Lisa McPherson leave this room?
A.
When was that?
Q.
This is the 22nd, 11/22/95. At eleven twenty
you are on the watch. She has punched somebody out that is going to be on the watch, and Barcenas is a security guard now, and you are there. Can Lisa leave?
A.
It could have been very dangerous if she
would have left, for her sake. She was very violent.
Q.
Do I take that as a no? That’s no, she could
not leave? You are saying she was very dangerous?
A.
Yeah, for her own safety, I don’t ‘think we
would have let her.

Q.
Okay. Getting back to the organization, the
Church is very organized, security, is very organized, and this is just your opinion because you are in the organization as a chaplain?
A.
Yeah.
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Q. And this is a yes or no. Is it very unusual
that we would be missing complete days of watches? We

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