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Q.
Is he out of it at this point?
A.
That’s correct, to my knowledge, that’s
correct. I never saw him in the room.
Q.
All right, did Lisa have who was Lisa’s
senior?
A.
Well, she wasn’t a seeded (phonetic) member
she worked for I am pretty sure she worked for -—
Q.
Go back to your first word. What was it?
A.
She was not a seated (phonetic) member, so
she didn’t necessarily —- she didn’t have the same structure that we have.

Q.
Okay. Did she have a minister?
A.
She would have, but I don’t know who it was.
I never knew her before this period of time.
Q.
Did she have an auditor?
A.
She would have, but I don’t know who it was.
Q.
Are you aware of whether or not somebody
could even participate in any counseling or auditing under the circumstances that she was in?
A.
No, not at all. You really do have to
participate. It’s not something that is done to you. I mean, you have to be completely involved in it.
Q.
Who is the person that gathered up the
reports after they were written?
A.
I actually don’t know. I would just leave
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