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BY MR. MCGARRY:
Q. I am just asking for your opinion. I am not asking —— MR. LAURO: It’s not an opinion, he is

asking for your observations.
A.
Well, just constantly picking, moving,
grabbing (indicating), flailing, kicking, sometimes like grinding her head into the pillow. Like, Barbro had a pillow. She would try to get it under her face, because she was just grinding her face into it, the pillow, you know.
BY MR. MCGARRY:

Q.
How were the care-givers and yourself coping
with this, dealing with this, if you were?
A.
Well, speaking for myself ——
Q.
And as well as your observations of the
people around you.
A.
I was kind of horrified by what was going on.
I had never seen anything like that. It was clear to me that we had to, you know, interfere with her attempts to hurt herself and hurt us. She was, like, intent on digging in those fingernails and gouging at us and ——

Q.
Did you have
MR. LAURO:
Hold on. I am sorry, I know
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